valuebetting OP (QQ) on river - and a poem

One of the most important things in NL is to valubet correctly.
I'm going to present a hand from my last session, and hope to get
som input on how to play it.

But first, a fresh poem from JuniorJunior (you need culture dude):



rofl.

Ok, let's get to the hand.



As you can see, I'm ahead all the time. The hand plays straight forward untill the turn.

Since there was a possibility that the villan was chasing the flush, and the fact that I didn't want to give him the opportunity to represent it with a heavy re-raise, I chose to give away a free card and check behind.
When the river is remotly blank - exept a possible straight hitting - and the villan checks in front, I feel pretty certain that I'm ahead.
A check behind on river would be terrible.
I think that the 75 bet into the aprox 130-140 pot, was a good bet.
If the villan re-raises, well, then I can fold - no problem - but it's important to not be afraid of this, and hence: loose alot of EV.

River play gets more and more important, the higher limits you play - that's my opinion anyways.

Anyone dissagree with my check on the turn?

Have a nice day.

It's pretty noob to discuss hands without stack sizes, but my HH doesn't show them, sry.

Stack sizes at start of the hand:

The villan has aprox 320 (dugg up from my wast memory).
I cover him

I have trouble reading hand histories like this one. I’m sure it’s much easier to read though once you’re used to it just call me old fashion. Anyways what is post RB (dead blind, what’s the R?)

I like the play, though without a read I’m not folding on the river to a raise often in this spot but that’s off topic and good for another discussion.

On the topic of a value bet. I wish I saved the hand history, but have to give it you guys without.

PokerStars Step 4 tournaments are $215 Direct buy-in.

Top 2 get seat to $700 step 5.
3rd Gets Seat back to Step 4
4-5 move back to Step 3
6th = Step 2.

Were 5 to go:
One huge stack.. Me and another player are mid stacks. there are two players grossly short stacked. (600 and 300 chips something like that).

I picked up pocket 10's and raise 4x the blinds to $1200. The button calls me he's the other mid stack and now we got a large pot each with about 2,000 chips behind.

The flop comes AKK

Check, Check

Turn Q (can't get worst can it?)
Check, Check

River Deuce

Check: he bets $900, I call he has Jacks I got Tens.

Top 2 get a seat and this pot puts him in a great position to get a seat and he gets the extra value bet on the end further crippling me. I hang on and do manage to finish 3rd so I still got my step 4 redo.

This hand stuck in the back of my mind. First thing I'm thinking is should I have checked this hand down. If I loose no more chips in this hand I'm in a good spot to get the redo still and still have chips to towards earning the seat. However that's not guaranteed and going back to Step 3 ($82) is not a significant loss (but still a decent one). So was my play weak, I'm not so sure I think it was okay in that spot checking it down because there are 2 players almost blinded in who even if the double up I still have the lead over. I almost half to just sit back and wait for the gamble.

So what I started to think about next, do I value bet my Jacks against him? I think its a great play but I wonder if I'd have the courage to do so. I might find myself happy to just check behind as well.

The other thing to consider is my call on the river.. But I think that's fine its such a small bet and either he's been checking a monster the entire way or has a hand like mine and its a small call to find out.

Anyways interesting hand I'm curious to here others thoughts on.

Good valubet by him.
There's not too many hands with Q in it that you could have - and that is logicaly the only hand that beats him on the river. QJ Q10 Q9 - blinds-stealing hands - and even those sounds pretty unlikly. So the bet is very good.

The call is not too shaby either - again - same hands + JJ beats you, so if you don't risk loosing the tourney over it, the call seems ok.

I don't know what he would check behind.
99 would prob be able to valuebet here (super thin)

22-33-44-55 - could turn their hand into a bluff, to take you off 66-77-88-99.

I don't know what kind of unpaired hand you should be afraid of.

Offcourse - J10 - I forgot about that - that is a very likely hand, wich he can have , and valubet with.

Other suited connecters seems a bit unlikely with the stack sizes.

Well, It's about a 50/50 call - fold I think, w/1010 here. Nothing seems realy wrong to me.

The JJ bet is great.

I agree his JJ bet is great. I just am wondering if I'd make that bet myself because of the circumstances. with 2K chips left were still in a good position to make the redo for step 4. If you win the pot your in great shape to win the seat to step 5 with or without that extra 900 chips, but the extra 900 chips increase the chances greatly. So I agree great bet by him, however I wonder if I would have made it myself. I think I make a bad move check it and am happy to win the pot having missed the value bet on the end. Which is weak, but at the same time if I'm wrong I got 2 guys about to be blinded all in, I still got 2K where i can compete. His play was better than mine, I think I probably miss a bet there, but now that I've discussed it here I'm less likely to. Yay for forums!