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Old 05-30-2008, 08:45 PM   #1
Jim
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Default Craked AA first tournament hand $100+$9 MSOP Event #1

I don't play much at Full Tilt and just realized I did not have it configured to store hand histories for this tournament, but I remember the hand anyways:

MSOP Event #1 at Full Tilt. Pot Limit Hold'em $100+$9

This is the VERY First hand,
Blinds are $10/$20, We have 5,000 Chips, We are 9 Handed
I'm on the button dealt Aces.

2 Players Fold
villain Raises to 45
3 Players Fold
Hero Raises to 150 (I'm Hero)
SB and BB fold (BB is Scott Fishman btw for those who care lol)
Villian Calls

Flop:
Q 6 T rainbow

Villain Check
Here Bets $250 (Pot is $330)
Villain Check Raises to $1000
Hero Raises Pot: (Huge Raise commits me for sure, don't remember amount)
Villian: Moves all in
Hero: Calls

Villian turns over 66 for a set doubling up the first hand.

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I can't help but wonder how I might of played this hand if I was in the right state of mind. I have to pick my daughter up at 5:15 and know already at the two hour mark of this tournament I'll be sitting out for 30-45 minutes.
I also woke up tired today and am planning to play Event #1 of Bodog MSOP tonight and I'm kind of wishing this Full Tilt one was not at the same time. Anyways my mind set in this tournament is hoping I am not short stacked come 5 where I'll be sitting out, and really all together I am not in a good state of mind to be playing this tournament anyways as I've already called a friend to ask if he could come over and fill in for me, which he couldn't do.

I'm curious what you guys do in this spot. Personally I don't mind that I busted out w/ AA because now I don't need to worry about this tournament and I can at least feel like eh well I did play and I busted with Aces.

What is bothering me is I can't decide if I would of gotten away from this hand on the bet of $1000 or not if I was in the right state of mind.
Curious do you guys get away from this hand?

Also any comments on the play before the flop check raise?

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Old 05-31-2008, 02:06 AM   #2
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Default Re: Craked AA first tournament hand $100+$9 MSOP Event

Wow I just about had a heart attack LOL
1st hand of Bodog MSOP Event #1 also a $100+$9 buy in which all pumped up to play I get pocket aces again and I'm also on the Button again.

Seriously what are the chances of both MSOP event on getting aces.

Same situation with 2 Fold and then a raise.
This time to 40 (blind 10/20 in this game)

I raise to 100 he folds.
and I actually feel relieved LOL

Don't think I could of handled busting first hand of both MSOP event #1's while holding pocket aces. It would of made for some mega tilt.

I'm pretty sure now that in the right state of mind I would of folded on the flop in the FTP MSOP. Still wondering though if I would of had the discipline to do so.

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Old 05-31-2008, 03:01 AM   #3
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Default Re: Craked AA first tournament hand $100+$9 MSOP Event

Yeah I am tilting today.
Seriously got to shake off thinking about that hand.
I just totally donked off and busted in the Bodog MSOP about 25 minutes in.
I got down to 1160 from the 1500 starting stack legitimately. for example had 77 on a flop of J5J figured I was good. He caught up to me though on draw and I lost a small pot. Then I lost another small pot when I reraised with KK and got called by AT. An ace flopped and in position I made a continuation bet got called and shut down. We both checked.

I guess frustrated that the tournament was off to a bad start I just lost my mind.

I droped from 1160 to 850 when I had 7-2 on BB. I'm pretty sure I know this player from another site, but not exact sure if it was him. Anyways I put him on AQ or AK on a flop Q T 2. He played the pot as if he was very strong and I was a little bit suspicions. I should of let it go but I start thinking like a moron that if he is the player I know my call will scare him and I'll know on the turn if I can steal this pot on the river. When he bet 100 into a 480 I know now he has AQ or 22 (22 less likely because of my 22 and I know this because he's not playing QQ or TT as a min raise to the flop flop and then trying to show strength with just blinds in the hand) and is giving me a chance to bluff now. Being pretty sure he would call my a few hundred on river and having calling 100 for 580 now knowing I'll get paid off if I happen to catch lucky and can probably get a fold if the river is a 9 (this is questionable but I don't care about this part of the play as much.. getting involved in this stupid hand in the first place is where the extremely stupid mistake was made) I opt to call his 100 chip bet.

The river is obviously no help and I check he thinks for a bit and just checks.

Down to 850 chips and annoyed that I just dumped 310 chips and got out drawn a few times already previous to that. I get dealt pocket 3's.
I would just about never play these. Anyways blinds just went up and there is an early position pot bet. I know I got to fold this and as I'm clicking fold. I decide F it I am going to push this and double up or just get out of this. This was 100% tilt play and something I might do with connectors or something from time to time... what I was thinking with 33 no idea was for sure not the right time to even look for a coin flip with early position raiser.

Anyways after losing with AA today first hand of tournament I played like a complete donk in this other tournament.

I guess this post is more just to vent and get it out of my system by admitting publicly how much of a fish I was today and hopefully to be able to refocus and play better tomorrow.

I'm still interested in responses to that first I posted earlier as I think this long post here was partially the reaction to that experience earlier.

Last edited by Jim; 05-31-2008 at 10:18 AM.
 
Old 05-31-2008, 09:40 AM   #4
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Default Re: Craked AA first tournament hand $100+$9 MSOP Event

Jim I'm rather confused with the action in the first hand. It looks like a flop check raise but you mention later that it's actually a turn raise.

If it's a flop raise from a typical good player I'd put his range as:AQ/KQ/KJ/66/TT (QQ is most likely being reraised preflop)
so combo's you beat: AQ:3, KQ: 12, KJ: 16 = 31. Combo's that beat you: 6. SO we don't need to look at odds at all to see you can happily come over the top here.

I think a turn check raise is a vastly different animal. I think AQ,KQ, KJ are far less likely to raise here, you've shown major strength thus far, the pre flop reraise, flop bet which gets called?, and now a turn bet is in a way turning your hand face up to what it is, KK/AA. If he's any kind of thinking player the absolute worst hand he can put you is AQ and yet he's still making a huge raise. You've given him perfect information, and he's actually returning the favour with perfect information in return. Unless you have a read on him that he's a maniac, I think you can give him credit for 66,TT and make the fold hoping he doesn't flash 72o at you.
These spots just suck

Your later posts had me commiserating, I hate the way the results of one hand can influence how you pay future hands - damn you brain, why can't you be more botlike?
 
Old 05-31-2008, 10:13 AM   #5
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Default Re: Craked AA first tournament hand $100+$9 MSOP Event

I'm not sure how I made a typo 3 times that it was the turn, it was a long day. The hand was exactly as described it was a check raise on the flop.

I also feel a bit better now that 4 or 5 people are saying obvious shove on flop and no one has agreed with fold.

I guess its just rare to have AA facing pressure during level one of a tournament and I would under most circumstances probably probably play it the same and quickly write the beat off and move on.

The reason it really stuck in my mind is I knew my state of mind was poor heading into the tournament and I kept thinking all day how would i have played that if I was in a better state of mind.

Because I though about it all day I let if effect me when the next tournament had started poor.

I guess I feel confident now that this hand really doesn't matter that much and would of been nothing more than an "oh that sucks" had I not let myself think about ti all day. Yes amazing how the mind can work sometimes.

Anyways thanks a lot of the response.
 
Old 06-06-2008, 03:01 AM   #6
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Default Re: Craked AA first tournament hand $100+$9 MSOP Event

eh.... This isn't exactly a high calibar event. I would felt with AA and just say standard if you ran into a set here. Most of your opponents are going to be pretty bad, and you have to feel you have a very significant equity edge to fold here.
 
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